Logic Pro v 9.1.8
26 oct. 2012
MacOS X Intel
This update addresses overall stability and performance issues including:
Fixes an issue that caused an AirPlay dialog to repeatedly appear.
Resolves performance issues when using plug-ins that provide frequent graphic feedback.
Additional content downloads now behave correctly when installing on Lion and Mountain Lion.
Logic Pro v 9.1.7
28 mars 2012
MacOS X Intel
Compatibility
Provides compatibility with songs created with GarageBand for iOS 1.2.
Performance and Stability
Resolves an issue in Logic Pro 9.1.6 in which projects with a large number of fades displayed “I/O Error, Result code = -36” when playback was started.
Improves performance when using multiple instances of EXS24 in 32-bit mode with EXS24 Virtual Memory mode active.
Resolves several issues related to the download and installation of basic and additional content.
Resolves an issue that could occur which caused the application to stop responding when performing Undo. This would occur after deleting a file or region in the Audio Bin.
Plug-ins and Instruments
The Output Distortion setting for the Compressor plug-in now works as expected with the "ClassA_R" and "ClassA_U" models.
Fixes an issue in which the Autofilter plug-in might produce clicks with certain settings.
The "Select Zone of Last Played Key" setting now works as expected in the EXS24 editor.
When adding Auxes as additional outputs for Multi Output Software Instruments, the additional Auxes are automatically assigned the same color and track icon as the Software Instrument.
General
Fixes an issue in which copying a MIDI region in a project which does not start at 1 1 1 1, and in which the Transposition track is active, might result in unexpected transposition of the copied region.
The Controls View of plug-in GUIs now fit properly on the 11-inch MacBook Air display.
Resolves an issue in OS X 10.7.x Lion that caused the Consolidate Project command in Logic to open a backup of the project at the end of the process.
Logic Pro v 9.1.6
9 déc. 2011
MacOS X Intel
This update improves overall stability and addresses some minor issues.
Logic Pro v 9.1.5
9 août 2011
MacOS X Intel
Compatibility
Resolves an issue which could cause unexpected feedback in Logic after importing a song from GarageBand for iPad.
Selecting the "Open Apogee Control Panel" command will now launch Apogee's Maestro 2 application if a Duet 2 is attached.
Performance and Stability
Resolves an issue in which Logic might quit unexpectedly when creating a new project.
Resolves an issue in which Logic might quit unexpectedly when moving audio regions in the Arrange window.
Plug-Ins
Resolves an issue introduced in Logic 9.1.4 in which LFO sync for some Logic plug-ins did not sound as expected.
Resolves an issue introduced in Logic 9.1.4 in which automating the Wet/Dry mix control in Delay Designer resulted in zipper noise.
The EVB3 plug-in now correctly responds to sustain off messages.
Direct text input of the pitch reference for the Tuner plug-in now works correctly.
General
Fixes ain issue in which performing undo after recording a MIDI take sometimes caused the MIDI track to stop sounding.
The "Toggle Zoom to Fit Selection or All Contents" key command now correctly recalls the the previous zoom view rather than zooming in on the entire project.
Resolves an issue introduced in Logic 9.1.4 in which some regions might shift out of position after using the Pack Take Folder command.
Fixes an issue in which Japanese key command sets were not available if Logic was updated to version 9.1.4 before launching Logic for the first time.
Resolves a rare take folder issue in which performing undo after deleting a comp section could cause regions in subsequent tracks to shift to the next adjacent track.
Fixes an issue in which take folders would not sound on soloed tracks if the Track Mute/Solo mode was set to CPU-saving (Slow Response).
Logic Pro v 9.1.4
25 mai 2011
MacOS X Intel
This update improves overall stability and addresses a number of minor issues, including the following:
* Support for opening projects imported from GarageBand for iPad.
Logic Pro v 9.1.3
29 oct. 2010
MacOS X Intel
Resolves problems related to the support of Hyper-Threading
Logic Pro v 9.1.2
15 oct. 2010
MacOS X Intel
Some issues addressed in this update include but are not limited to:
Performance and Stability
* Logic's performance while playing movies at larger than 300% native size in 64-bit mode has been improved.
* Resolves an issue that could cause the warning dialog "Memory Getting Low" to appear when simultaneously recording multiple tracks in 32-bit mode.
* Resolves an issue that could cause the warning dialog "Specified volume doesn't exist -35" to appear when simultaneously recording multiple tracks in 32-bit mode.
* Using the Undo command after a "Bounce in Place" command now correctly reinserts used plug-ins on the channel strip.
* Performing Undo after using the "Bounce - Replace All Tracks" command now correctly restores all automation.
* Resolves an issue that sometimes caused Logic to stop responding when loading a setting for a mono plug-in in a multi-mono surround configuration.
Compatibility
* Improves compatibility with 6- and 12-core Mac Pro systems.
* Supports iOS control surface apps that utilize the OSC protocol.
* Supports REX files when running in 64-bit mode.
* Improves compatibility with select Audio Unit plug-ins.
* The expanded System Performance window now accurately reflects the number of available real cores on all supported computers.
* Logic no longer inadvertently reloads the content for third-party sampler plug-ins such as Native Instrument's Kontakt after tracks are deleted, or after some other edits are performed.
* Resolves an issue introduced in Logic 9.1.1 that could cause the spacebar to incorrectly trigger playback in Logic while the Melodyne plug-in window had focus.
* Logic Control or Mackie Control hardware control surfaces no longer switch to plug-in edit view when a plug-in on slots 8-15 is removed.
MIDI Editing
* Resolves an issue introduced in Logic 9.1 where using the Marquee tool to trim the end of a MIDI region could extend the number of loops for regions earlier in the same track.
* The Piano Roll now updates as expected to show the currently selected MIDI take.
* Resolves an issue in Logic 9.1.1 which could cause the Score to not display all notes from a region that had been split with the Scissors tool.
* The appearance of downward slurs and ties has been improved in the Score window.
* When pasting MIDI events into the Arrange area, the playhead no longer jumps unexpectedly to a position far to the right of the end of the pasted content.
Instruments and Effects
* Amp Designer now reliably maintains saved non-default EQ settings when a project is reloaded.
* The Wah Wah stompbox now responds more reliably to expression pedal input.
* EXS24 loads and plays back instruments that use short AAC or ALAC audio files when Virtual Memory is disabled.
* Corrects an issue that could cause the "Next Plug-in Setting or EXS Instrument" key command to change settings on the wrong plug-in.
* It is possible again to copy and paste sequences between Voices within an Ultrabeat pattern.
* A Software Instrument with a Send set to Post Pan no longer loses audio output when the Aux it sends to is soloed, and the Software Instrument's pan is adjusted.
* Software Instrument tracks with the AUNetReceive plug-in no longer exhibit excessive latency.
* The Noise Gate no longer creates audible clicks while processing audio with the plug-in GUI open.
* Double-clicking an insert slot will close the associated plug-in if it is open and set to Link Mode.
* In the EXS Editor, a mouse roll over of an audio file name now displays the full path for the file.
* The EXS Editor now properly displays all Groups even those that have the same name.
File Handling and Management
* Resolves an issue which sometimes caused the text after a period in a plug-in setting name to be lost on the first save of the setting.
* Resolves an issue from Logic 9.1.1 which forced exported MIDI files to have a .logic extension rather than the .mid extension.
* Import of folder tracks from other projects now works reliably.
* Bank and Patch names in Multi-instruments now import correctly when using the Track Import feature.
* Resolves an issue which could cause the Track Import window to become non-functional in certain rare cases.
* Import of stereo Input Channel Strips from other projects now works reliably.
* It is again possible to drag split stereo audio files from the Finder into the Arrange window.
* The mute status is now maintained for tracks imported from other projects using Selective Track Import.
* The "Export Region as Audio File" and "Export Track as Audio file" functions now add tempo information to the exported files.
* The EXS24 now automatically locates samples stored in a folder inside the Project Folder that have any of the following names: "Samples," "Sampler Files," "Sampler Instruments," or "Audio Files."
* When a project is opened from a project folder that has been copied, EXS24 now loads samples from the copied location instead of the original.
* It is now possible to drag and drop an AIFF audio file copied from a CD into the Audio Bin in the Media area of the Arrange window.
* The project name is no longer truncated if a period is added to the project name when performing a Save As for the project.
General Issues
* Resolves an issue where applying a crossfade with the crossfade tool might affect existing crossfades on the same track.
* A marker is no longer created unexpectedly when the Open Marker Text command is used.
* The relative movement of the mouse when editing multiple automation nodes has been improved.
* The mouse pointer no longer incorrectly shows the Freeze pointer when editing volume, pan, send, mute or solo automation on frozen tracks.
* Help tags for the Marquee Strip now show the correct range.
* Soloing an Auxiliary channel strip whose source is a Bus from another Auxiliary channel strip now works as expected.
* Copying a MIDI region on a ReWire track no longer creates an unexpected new track.
* Cutting a region at a point earlier than the anchor at high zoom levels no longer causes the region to move unexpectedly.
* Plug-ins now open with Link mode enabled when they are invoked by entering Plug-in edit mode on a remote control surface.
* When a channel strip is muted, pre-fader sends on the channel strip are now muted as expected.
* Reordering multiple Control Surface objects in the Control Surface Setup window now behaves more reliably.
* Performing comp edits while recording will no longer create graphic artifacts in the Take Folder.
* The behavior of the key commands to adjust Marquee selection borders based on transients has been improved. See this article for details.
* There is no longer audible stepping with automated volume changes at low fader levels.
* Touch automation mode now works correctly with Sculpture's Object Position 2 parameter.
* Quantize parameters are now correctly maintained when a region is divided.
* The vertical position guide when moving/copying a flexed region is now correctly positioned at the left edge of the region in projects that start earlier than position 1 1 1 1.
* The Optimize file(s) command now properly affects both channels of a split stereo file.
* Delete now works properly on selected regions within undisclosed groups in the Audio Bin.
* Resolves an issue introduced in Logic 9.1.1 that could cause channel strips with default names to display incorrectly on EuCon control surfaces.
* The "Reset All I/O Labels" command once again works as expected.
* Regions dragged from the Audio Bin to tracks within folders in the Arrange window are now correctly positioned.
* Contextual menus now appear as expected when Control- or right-clicking entries in the Audio Bin in the Media area of the Arrange window.
* Performing Undo after adding tempo events to a project no longer inadvertently modifies the selections for the active comp in a take folder.
* Regions with a negative value set for Delay in the Region Inspector are now rendered properly with Bounce Region in Place.
* Bounce Regions in Place now works properly on record-enabled audio tracks.
* The current scroll position in the Audio Bin will not jump unexpectedly after renaming an audio file.
* The color and icon assigned to a track are now properly maintained when tracks are imported using Selective Track Import.
* Using the Backspace to remove all characters in the File Browser's search field no longer causes it to lose key focus.
* Imported linked stereo files will now load with all other audio files in a Project without sometimes displaying a dialog that states "Unequal Stereo Regions Corrected."
* The MIDI channel number is now appended to the channel strip name when new tracks are created using the "New Track with Next MIDI Channel" menu option.
Logic Pro v 9.1.1
19 mars 2010
MacOS X Intel
# This update delivers improved compatibility and numerous fixes.
# Issues addressed include:
* - Improved stability of the 32-Bit Audio Unit Bridge
* - Compatibility with Novation's Automap feature in 64-bit mode.
* - Compatibility with Euphonix Eucon protocol in 64-bit mode.
# Issues addressed include:
* - Support for 64-bit native mode
* - Compatibility with 64-bit Audio Unit plug-ins
* - File names with over 32 characters are now supported
* - Samples are now mapped correctly when using the "Contiguous Zones" option in the EXS editor
# Updated System Requirements:
* - 32-bit mode requires Mac OS X 10.5.7 or later
* - 64-bit mode requires Mac OS X 10.6.2 or later
Logic Pro v 9.1
12 janv. 2010
MacOS X Intel
# This update delivers improved compatibility and numerous fixes.
# Issues addressed include:
* - Support for 64-bit native mode
* - Compatibility with 64-bit Audio Unit plug-ins
* - File names with over 32 characters are now supported
* - Samples are now mapped correctly when using the "Contiguous Zones" option in the EXS editor
Logic Pro v 9.0.2
13 oct. 2009
MacOS X Intel
* This update improves overall stability and provides numerous fixes and enhancements.
* Issues addressed include:
o - Flex Markers can align & snap to MIDI notes
o - Performing a punch-in recording with Replace Mode now behaves correctly
o - The I/O plug-in adds an option for latency compensation
o - TDM plug-ins now behave as expected. (Only affects users with Pro Tools HD audio hardware.)
* The update is recommended for all users of Logic Pro 9.
Logic Pro v 9.0.1
23 sept. 2009
MacOS X Intel
* This update improves overall stability and provides numerous fixes and enhancements.
* Issues addressed include:
o - Flex Markers can align & snap to MIDI notes
o - Performing a punch-in recording with Replace Mode now behaves correctly
o - The I/O plug-in adds an option for latency compensation
* The update is recommended for all users of Logic Pro 9.
Logic Pro v 9.0
23 juil. 2009
MacOS X UB
Flex Time
Flex Time is a new collection of features that lets you manipulate timing and tempo quickly and creatively. Experience editing without all the cutting.
Flex Tool
The new Flex Tool lets you push audio around with your mouse by clicking and dragging anywhere on the waveform — forget all that tedious splicing and editing.
Audio Quantize
It's not just for MIDI anymore. Now you can conform the timing of an audio region to a musical grid, or to the feel of another track, instantly correcting a performance.
Editing drum tracks
Use Slicing Mode with drums and you won't compromise a single attack. Edit across a set of grouped multitrack drums and everything stays locked perfectly in phase.
Varispeed
Slow down or speed up an entire multitrack project effortlessly, whether you want to try out different tempos or take it slow while you play a difficult solo.
Flex Modes
Whether you're editing a solo vocal, a rhythm guitar or multitrack drums, Flex Time has a mode designed to give you the best results.
Speed Fades
Get creative by adding turntable-style starts or stops with the kind of precision that would impress even the best DJs.
Tempo Import/Export
Now the audio you import can automatically conform to the tempo of a project you're working on. (And the other way around.)
Production Tools
New production tools allow musicians to tackle any part of the recording, editing and mixing process they want — and get it done in a fraction of the time.
Selective Track Import
To transfer setups and track content between projects, simply select the individual components you want to import on a track-by-track basis.
Expanded take folder editing
Logic Pro 9 gives you access to your most important edit operations — including cut, copy, paste, fades and crossfades — alongside Quick Swipe comping.
Drum Replacer
Now you can replace or double less-than-perfect drum tracks with triggered samples in just a few clicks. No more headaches. No more hassles.
Convert to Sampler Track
In one step, turn an audio region into a sampler instrument with a MIDI track to trigger it. Then you can modify and resequence the part.
Bounce-in-Place
The new Bounce-in-Place feature makes effects rendering much quicker and easier, whether you're bouncing a single region or an entire track.
Notation and chord grids
Create guitar tablature or detailed scores using a library of more than 4000 chord grids (or your own custom grids) and new ornaments for hammer-ons, bends and more.
Vocal Jam Pack
Build your song with a lead vocal, rappers, backup singers, an entire choir, or even software instruments based on the human voice and body.
Warped Effects for Space Designer
More than 450 warped impulse responses radically transform what Space Designer can do, allowing you to give ordinary sounds a bizarre, other-worldly quality.
Guitar Gear
Now you can mix and match amp heads, EQs, reverbs, speaker cabinets and mics—then creatively route your signal through an impressive new collection of stompboxes.
Amp Designer
Build your dream rig by mixing and matching 25 amps, 25 speaker cabinets and 3 mics you can position freely around the speaker cone. Hear it now
Pedalboard
Fire up 30 stompboxes that deliver lush effects like Overdrive, Distortion, Fuzz, Delay, Chorus, Flanger, Phaser, Tremolo, Treble Boost and Wah. Hear it now
Classic tones
Hundreds of presets give you Amp Designer and Pedalboard sounds that are ready to go. Start exploring with classic tones, genres, or characteristics like clean, crunch and distorted.
Apogee GiO support
This new USB audio interface and control device lets you operate Pedalboard hands-free and works with Logic Pro 9 and MainStage 2 right out of the box.
Logic Pro v 8.0.2
21 mai 2008
MacOS X UB
La mise à jour Logic Pro 8.0.2 résout des problèmes spécifiques aux utilisateurs ainsi que des problèmes de compatibilité de Logic Pro 8.0 et WaveBurner 1.5.
Cette mise à jour est recommandée à tous les utilisateurs de Logic Studio. Pour en savoir plus sur cette version, consultez
les Détails Logic 8.0.2.
Si vous utilisez Logic Node, vous devez également mettre à jour votre application Logic Node sur les ordinateurs connectés. Après l'exécution de ce programme de mise à jour, vous trouverez un programme d'installation de Logic Node mis à jour et nommé Logic Node 8.0.2.dmg dans votre dossier Utilitaires.
Logic Pro v 8.0.1
18 déc. 2007
MacOS X UB
La mise à jour Logic Pro 8.0.1 résout des problèmes spécifiques aux utilisateurs ainsi que des problèmes de compatibilité de Logic Pro 8.0 et WaveBurner 1.5.
Si vous utilisez Logic Node, vous devez également mettre à jour votre application Logic Node sur les ordinateurs connectés. Après l'exécution de ce programme de mise à jour, vous trouverez un programme d'installation de Logic Node mis à jour et nommé Logic Node 8.0.1.dmg dans votre dossier Utilitaires.
Logic Pro v 8.0.0
2 oct. 2007
MacOS X UB
interface à une seule fenêtre
templates prêts à l'emploi
création dynamique de channel strip
support Rewire amélioré
enregistrement multi-prises facilité
fonction Quick Swipe comping pour assembler les meilleurs éléments des différentes prises
nouveaux outils d'édition (sélection snap-to-transient, time streching graphique, édition à l'échantillon près dans la fenêtre arrange)
mixage et traitement surround
sauvegarde de vos préférences vers votre compte .mac pour partage et portabilité
disparition du dongle USB
Logic Pro v 7.2.3
28 sept. 2006
MacOS X UB
Logic Pro 7.2.3 répond à des problèmes de performances lors de l'utilisation de Logic Pro 7 sur ordinateurs Mac Pro et G5 Quad. Logic Pro 7.2.3 est recommandé à tous les utilisateurs de Mac Pro et de G5 Quad. Pour installer cette mise à jour, Logic Pro 7.2.1 ou Logic Pro 7.2.2 doit déjà être installé sur l'ordinateur.
Remarque : Logic Pro 7.2.3 est optimisé pour les ordinateurs Mac à processeur PowerPC G4, PowerPC G5 et Intel, dotés de 2 processeurs double cœur au maximum.
Logic Pro v 7.2.2
18 août 2006
MacOS X UB
Logic Pro 7.2.2 offre une meilleure compatibilité avec le Mac Pro et propose:
- des performances supérieures, en tirant parti de l'architecture Mac Pro Quad-core ;
- une prise en charge optimisée des ports audio intégrés.
Logic Pro 7.2.2 est recommandé à tous les utilisateurs de Mac Pro. Logic Pro 7.2.1 doit être déjà installé pour procéder à cette mise à jour.
Logic Pro v 7.2.1
5 mai 2006
MacOS X UB
Correction de problèmes de fiabilité et de compatibilité dans les secteurs suivants :
Macs Intel : support ReWire et ReCycle, export fichier MIDI standard, import OMF, compatibilité instrument VSL EXS
fenêtre Sample Editor blanche dans certaines circonstances
arrêt inopiné de sortie d'instrument logiciel
compatibilité avec songs Logic 7.1
lecture directe de fichiers MP3
support EuCon pour les surfaces de contrôle Euphonix MC et CM408T
Logic Pro v 7.2
1 févr. 2006
MacOS X UB
version Universal : compatible avec macs Power PC et Intel
support intégré pour les interfaces Apogee Ensemble
support pour Digidesign Pro Tools HD 7 DAE
support pour Serato Pitch 'n Time LE (version AU exclusive)
support Rewire amélioré
support pour surfaces de contrôle amélioré
support 32 canaux pour instruments Audio Units multi-canaux
lecture de fichiers compressés sans conversion (AAC, Apple Lossless)
accès aux nouveaux plug-ins compatibles GarageBand 3
nouvelles Apple Loops (jingles et effets)
Logic Pro v 7.1.1
5 oct. 2005
MacOS X PPC
La mise à jour de Logic Pro 7.1.1 répond à des problèmes de fiabilité isolés. Elle améliore également la compatibilité avec Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger).
Pour plus d'informations sur cette mise à jour, voir
cette page .
Logic Pro v 7.1
6 avril 2005
MacOS X PPC
intégration des Apple Loops étendue
Compensation totale de délai de plug-in
Nouveaux plug-ins d'effets et d'instruments
Outil "Main" dans le Track Mixer
70 nouvelles commandes clavier
nombreuses améliorations de plug-ins
support de 9 surfaces de contrôle supplémentaires
option de suivi de tempo lors de l'enregistrement audio
fonction 'Insert Chords from Chord Track'
améliorations de performance multiples
Logic Pro v 7.0.1
19 janv. 2005
MacOS X PPC
Corrections portant sur la compatibilité
- Apple Loops s'exécute correctement dans des sessions dont les fréquences d'échantillonnage sont différentes de 44,1 kHz.
- Les fichiers Recycle sont systématiquement importés.
- Toutes les Acid Loops transposent convenablement dans le Navigateur Apple Loop.
- Les pistes TDM sont bien prémixées, même lorsqu'un prémixage natif est configuré sur "Offline".
- Les modules Audio Suite s'exécutent correctement, même si des fenêtres flottantes sont ouvertes.
- Les deux côtés d'un fichier stéréo séparé sont convertis lors d'une conversion de fréquence d'échantillonnage réalisée dans l'Éditeur d'échantillon.
Corrections d'automatisation de pistes
- La fonction Copier/Convertir fonctionne correctement.
- Les noms de paramères de modules de Pitch Correction s'affichent correctement.
Corrections des Surfaces de contrôle - Logic Control ne génère plus de remarques en mode d'apprentissage.
- Tous les noms des paramètres de modules s'affichent correctement. - Les consoles Yamaha n'installent plus des temps multiples dans la fenêtre de configuration.
- Les assignations sont désormais disponibles dans la Visualisation des commandes.
- Les joysticks Surround fonctionnent correctement.
Corrections d'Ultrabeat
- Désormais les accents dans le séquenceur fonctionnent systématiquement.
- Il n'y a plus de problèmes graphiques lors de la copie de séquences par étapes.
- L'importation de kits de batterie Factory Ultrabeat fonctionne à présent correctement.
- Les voix de batterie commencent la lecture plus rapidement lors de l'écoute, pendant l'importation d'un kit Ultrabeat.
- L'automatisation de plus d'une voix de batterie Ultrabeat fonctionne correctement.
Corrections générales
- Le chargement des réglages de voie n'activera plus le paramètre d'Instrument "Transpose".
- Le réglage de la position du micro de Guitar Amp est conservé lors du chargement d'un réglage de voie de Logic Express vers Logic Pro.
- Les noms des appareils MIDI de la configuration Audio et MIDI ou de l'Assistant réglages Logic s'affichent correctement dans le morceau par défaut.
- Les messages de banques multi-instruments ne seront pas modifiés lors de l'importation d'un morceau à partir de Logic Pro 6.4.3.
- La fenêtre "Aller à la position" ne bascule plus involontairement vers la position SPL courante lorsqu'elle s'ouvre.
- "Envoi MIDI > Volume Maximum" envoie à toutes les voies et non plus seulement à la voie 1.
- Les préférences de tablatures guitare et les définitions d'accords peuvent être à nouveau saisies via des options de menu.
- Les mises à jour d'écran se produisent désormais plus régulièrement, ce qui réduit le nombre de petits problèmes graphiques.
Logic Pro v 7.0
22 juil. 2004
MacOS X PPC
nouvelle fonction de traitement audio partagé (par plusieurs mac en réseau)
bibliothèque de boucles Apple
3 nouveaux instruments : Sculpture (synthétiseur d'instruments acoustiques par modélisation physique), Ultrabeat (boîte à rythme), EFM1 (synthétiseur à base de FM)
9 nouveaux plug-in d'effet : Guitar Amp Pro, Linear Phase EQ, Match EQ, Pitch Correction, Ringshifter, Vocal Transformer, Multimeter
Sauvegarde des réglages et paramètres des canaux
Pistes "globales" : contrôle graphique du tempo, mesure et autres
Edition Shuffle dans fenêtre Arrange
Crossfade automatique dans fenêtre Arrange
Amélioration de l'édition du EX24
...
Logic Pro v 6.4.3
12 mai 2004
MacOS 9
Cette version permet d'ouvrir les songs au format logic 7
Correction bug de gestion de surface de controle sous mac bi processuers Correction bug du menu "ouvrir récents"
moins...
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